Advice on the push front pin please.

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Advice on the push front pin please.

Post by Philo » Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:02 pm

I cant find any resources on how to shoot a push front pin.

Can anybody help?
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Post by The Doctor » Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:59 pm

There's posts about the front pin push in this very sub-section, Philo!

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Post by leaks » Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:32 pm

Ill show you on wednesday at the griffin ;)

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Post by Philo » Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:00 pm

Andrei, I'm clearly far to busy to look for it myself.
leaks wrote:Ill show you on wednesday at the griffin ;)
ahahah, dude don't make be bum you with my one way front pin AGAIN!
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Post by Phil Williams » Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:40 pm

looks like i'll have to collect my table before you start to practise it!!

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Post by leaks » Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:40 pm

Philo wrote:ahahah, dude don't make be bum you with my one way front pin AGAIN!
Must have been pretty hard "bumming" me with your front pin when you wern't on the table most of the night ;)
Phil Williams wrote:looks like i'll have to collect my table before you start to practise it!!
I wouldn't worry Phil - give it two weeks and he'll be back onto the pull kick

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Post by Phil Williams » Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:44 pm

leaks wrote:
Philo wrote:ahahah, dude don't make be bum you with my one way front pin AGAIN!
Must have been pretty hard "bumming" me with your front pin when you wern't on the table most of the night ;)
Phil Williams wrote:looks like i'll have to collect my table before you start to practise it!!
I wouldn't worry Phil - give it two weeks and he'll be back onto the pull kick
your right, he's had it 3 months and still not worked out how to put 50p into it!

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Post by Philo » Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:57 pm

leaks wrote:
Philo wrote:ahahah, dude don't make be bum you with my one way front pin AGAIN!
Must have been pretty hard "bumming" me with your front pin when you wern't on the table most of the night ;)
Phil Williams wrote:looks like i'll have to collect my table before you start to practise it!!
I wouldn't worry Phil - give it two weeks and he'll be back onto the pull kick
Mate I was shooting all sorts that night, but the second I whipped out my front pin you just kept giving me holes. :lol:
In fact its already just too easy, I might have to revert to my back pin on Wednesday.
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Re: Advice on the push front pin please.

Post by Phil Williams » Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:58 pm

Philo wrote:I cant find any resources on how to shoot a push front pin.

Can anybody help?
I hate it when a noob askes these questions, they have been answered a thousand times on other threads!

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Post by Chaz » Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:00 pm

Fight fight fight!
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Post by Mase » Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:05 pm

Philo you gump, you are the same man that posted this thread http://www.britfoos.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3698 about banning set shots. Now you want help. I think not. lol I could show you my push pin but it only works on Garlando so no good for you!!

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Post by Rob Davey » Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:15 pm

Pro on Garlando!

Innit Phareham  :lol:  :lol:

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Re: Advice on the push front pin please.

Post by optix » Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:41 am

Phil Williams wrote: I hate it when a noob askes these questions, they have been answered a thousand times on other threads!
Quick! Someone start a thread in the War Zone!
I love this stupid game!

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Re: Advice on the push front pin please.

Post by Zico » Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:19 am

optix wrote:
Phil Williams wrote: I hate it when a noob askes these questions, they have been answered a thousand times on other threads!
Quick! Someone start a thread in the War Zone!
If you do that Philo wouldn't read it...

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Post by smokinhack » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:07 am

Rob Davey wrote:Pro on Garlando!

Innit Phareham  :lol:  :lol:
Ma pin shot used to hit the post but now I've chipped away at it so much there is no post and it goes deadman every time (on Garlando).

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Post by Philo » Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:29 pm

Mase wrote:crap
Mase you are not very helpful. I know set shots are never going to be banned, the thread you quoted was just a theoretical debate in response to a 'no-snake' event.
:x
As for the plethora of other not so helpful responses I guess I should take the blame as:
1) yes I was to lazy to search for a comprehensive guide to the front pin
2) No one here is good enough at the front pin to use it in a tournament. Phareham is the only one I have seen that come close.

I don’t want to spend hours practising the wrong thing based on a couple of casual threads on britfoos.
:P

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Post by leaks » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:00 pm

If you want a serious response - try watching some inside foos DVDs and looking at the good front pin shooters. Noone here is really experienced enough at them to comment (bar Rob). Although Ive only put a couple of hours into it, I can shoot a long hard square (roll palm) pin shot. ok, its nowhere near tournament standard - of course its not, Ive never put any serious time into it. But I managed to improve from no push side whatsoever (literally none at all) to being able to strike a decent length square shot by just watching the following things in video footage:
- stance of the shooting player, how does he position his body when he shoots. I found this made a difference to getting a comfortable shot and more lateral speed (although my shot is still slow, but that comes with practise).
- grip on the rod - I found that the way I was positioning my thumb and forefinger was actually impeding my push side shot, and by copying the way the to players gripped I had an immediate improvement.

Just analyse everything you can about their shot, and compare it to what you're doing. Think about whether the differences in your shot might be what's causing you problems, and practise changing those elements to more closely mimic the top shooters.

Then just practise practise practise (and drop the pull kick ;) )

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Post by Martyn » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:05 pm

Philo

Dave Perrott has a competent push pin - over the years, I have asked him how he does it/how one does it,  then I go back to my table and experiment, but always give up.

It's very hard, and of course if it was that easy, we'd all be doing it. It's why Frederico cleans up as often as he does, (coupled with all the rest of his awesome talent that is).

Try PM'ing Dave - maybe others I'd try if I were you would be Declan (but he's not on Britfoos, so ask at tournies), and Eddie. Not a typo, Ed's got a cracking push pin, though if you tell him that, you'll never hear the last of it.  :lol:
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Post by davez » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:31 pm

Iain Boardman and Caroline Wong have good front pins, especially on Bonzini.

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Post by Rhys » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:34 pm

Other good front pin shooters could ask if they ever turn up for a tournament are Bruce and Clint McHugh.

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