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Tornado just appeared with BIN £250

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:09 pm
by Max
Just spotted this come up on Ebay in the last hour - I'm after a French table but for the little I know about Tornados' this seems a very good price so guess someone should be quick...not sure if it breaks any forum rules (listing is nothing to do with me) but wanted to post it quick to hopefully benefit a member here. :)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VALLEY-TORNAD ... 41617fbff9

Re: Tornado just appeared with BIN £250

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:58 pm
by cmau
Potentially $150 for a Tornado if there are no bids. I'll have to keep an eye on that!

Re: Tornado just appeared with BIN £250

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:13 pm
by Boris
It is a brown-marble cabinet which means it is probably 15-20 years old. These were very good quality tables in their day (most old players agree they were better-made than newer Tornados), but watch for dead spots on the cabinet walls or warping if it has not been well looked-after or got damp at some point. 15-20 years is a long time!

Re: Tornado just appeared with BIN £250

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:02 pm
by leaks
Just had a check back - ended with 0 bids, so it didn't even sell for the £150!

Re: Tornado just appeared with BIN £250

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:45 am
by davez
Well then now is the time to contact the seller and make a private offer. They will be happy to make the sale after failing on eBay, especially as it will be free of sale charges.

Re: Tornado just appeared with BIN £250

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:27 pm
by Simmo
davez wrote:Well then now is the time to contact the seller and make a private offer. They will be happy to make the sale after failing on eBay, especially as it will be free of sale charges.
Thats some sneaky thinking Dave :wink:

Re: Tornado just appeared with BIN £250

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:46 pm
by davez
It would be sneaky if you did it while the auction was still running, but once it's over it's fine!

Re: Tornado just appeared with BIN £250

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:23 am
by Max
leaks wrote:Just had a check back - ended with 0 bids, so it didn't even sell for the £150!
He ended it early and it will have sold already. It was bid on the first day (which automatically removed the BIN) - the seller then ended the listing (in 99% of cases he would have negotiated a sale during the auction via email/PM to avoid seller fees) - before ending the listing he needs to cancel the bids on the listing first.

Re: Tornado just appeared with BIN £250

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:23 am
by davez
If he did that then he broke eBay terms of service and may also have broken the law (though I'm not certain about that).

Re: Tornado just appeared with BIN £250

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:21 pm
by Max
Forgive me but you must be very new to eBay :? - that is a completely normal and very common practise on eBay. Against the eBay rules of course but it happens all the time. If the seller is not a business (or big time) seller on preferential rates then he can offer a better deal as he doesn't pay the 10% or so seller fee. Can work for the buyer too in that way to negotiate the price down but you lose eBay/Paypal protection etc so buyer beware - different with something like this though as you would go and view it and pay cash.

Re: Tornado just appeared with BIN £250

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:45 pm
by davez
Max, why do you think I must be new to eBay?

(Why would you say that?)

Re: Tornado just appeared with BIN £250

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:25 pm
by Max
Sorry for any offence caused - I thought twice about posting that but could not think of any better way to put it - once again apologies if I offended you. :(

Really just trying to make the point that it is such common practise that I guessed most people would be aware that it happens all the time. As you say it is against eBay regs but most people don't have much sympathy for eBay.

Re: Tornado just appeared with BIN £250

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:55 pm
by davez
S'OK, I'm not offended Max! And welcome to the forum!

Re: Tornado just appeared with BIN £250

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:46 pm
by Max
Cheers Dave. :)